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  Grizrev Senior Member Username: Grizrev Post Number: 519 Registered: 8-2006 |
That should be Kukanah -- no pun really intended; just an old brain's relapse. I could have mentioned many others of you who have posted so insightfully, and whose posted paintings are representative of those insights and skills. I find it helpful to browse back through your posts to reinforce understandings and to find resources, many of which are still available and haven't been surpassed. Thanks to all of you! I hope you'll be back on the board from time to time! And thanks, Marie, for organizing an index to make some of the best more accessible. Happy painting to all of you. | ||
Grizrev Senior Member Username: Grizrev Post Number: 518 Registered: 8-2006 |
Runjhun, thank you for taking time to respond so thoughtfully to my questions. I do appreciate you, Marie, Eugene and so many other good artists who have shared their experience and wisdom with the rest of us during the life of this board. Some have moved on and no longer participate, which is regrettable but no doubt inevitable. Perhaps some like Robert, Carrie, and Kahunah may someday return. In any case, they have helped us become better artists and better people, and what they have shared in their posts will remain a legacy for all who follow us. | ||
runjhun Unregistered guest |
A reply to Grizrev "not every step or color you try works, or pleases you" yes very true. but i accept it as a part of me. my paintings are a part of me like my hair or my hands. so i accept them as they turn out "What do you do if the color you try is not quite right How do you go about making corrections" If i have towel nearby, i scrub, if i have a tap nearby i wash, and if i don't get anything else i change the direction of the painting into what it has turned towards. "How do you go about making corrections? Do you scrub out, overpaint with acrylic, or just start over on another sheet? Do do you try "tweak" a painting to get it headed back in the right direction? " I do everything possible for me to make it look like i want it to look like. "How do you use Paynes Grey" i use it like i use all other colors. no specifics. basically on a toothbrush or on my thumb or on a good brush for spattering/sponging/ layering etc.. and whatever else Do you also use tube whites and blacks I haven't used black up till now. but i might some day. at the moment it overpowers my painting and scares the hell out of me. I try building layers for dark, shadow areas. for whites i leave/ mask /sponge /clean and scrub. white at the moment i am not using cos it makes stuff look chalky and artificial. but again i might use it somewhere if need be.  regards runjhun thanks again and please don't appreciate me so much. i am nothing in comparison to marie and eugene. they are really good. | ||
Grizrev Senior Member Username: Grizrev Post Number: 516 Registered: 8-2006 |
Robert Genn has some interesting thoughts this week that support Runjhun's sentence “I would suggest everyone here to forget about rules regarding WC and paint in the manner their heart tells them to." The following is what Robert says: "Early yesterday morning, my daughter Sara and I were painting at the end of the Laniloa Peninsula, Oahu, Hawaii. From a parked car nearby, a young man in a white shirt and tie watched her out of the corner of his eye. As I passed by, he rolled down his window and said, "That girl just took out a canvas and started painting. She hardly drew things out at all." The fellow and I struck up a conversation. He turned out to be a Teaching ••••••••• from the nearby Brigham Young University at La'ie. He was "having a quiet read and some meditation." I told him the girl was my daughter and that she was working "alla prima--all at once." Then he said, "It looks quite a lot like play." Later, when Sara and I were going over our day's efforts, we agreed the young man had got to the truth of the matter. As far as plein air painting is concerned, play has its own methodology: Feel and relish the environment. Get into a "be here now" state of mind. Start your work anywhere. Look cleanly and with an uncluttered mind. Be joyous and unencumbered in your stroke. Work everywhere at once when you can. Try to leave your strokes alone. Do not labour or think too much. Don't sweat the small stuff. Let the painting tell you what it needs. Though it may be small, make your picture big. Without being a wimp, serve your subject. Don't verbalize your sight--sense the being. Surrender to earth's beauty and wisdom. If you make errors, fix them in good humour. Be suspicious of what you've been told, how you ought to do things, and what you ought to think." | ||
George Unregistered guest |
I need to slow down! That should read “your success”, instead of, “you’re success.” | ||
George Unregistered guest |
Jack, scrubbing, scratching, gouging, scraping and sanding are frowned on by today’s watercolor purist but the fact is that these techniques have been used by watercolor artists for the past two hundred years. The great Turner used some of these techniques. I recently had a watercolor artist tell me that the watercolor purist is trying to keep the traditional techniques alive. The problem with this statement is that today’s watercolor purist is often making unfounded a*sumptions about what is traditional. | ||
George Unregistered guest |
Runjhun wrote: “I would suggest everyone here to forget about rules regarding WC and paint in the manner their heart tells them to” Runjhun, I have been making that same point since I first came to this watercolor page. You’re success as an artist has illustrated the point more than anything I’ve ever said. I’d also like to say, at the risk of embarrassing you, that I find your unique combination of humility and artistic integrity to be both delightful and refreshing. | ||
Whitewatercolor Senior Member Username: Whitewatercolor Post Number: 330 Registered: 10-2006 |
It wouldn't matter what colors or pigments you've used, you've captured the form and done it very well. I'm not sure, but it looks like your original posting was a challenge. One that nobody took you up on. I've always felt that if you can capture the form of a ball (with the cast shadow, ambient light, reflected light, you can paint anything. I think you can just about tackle anything after having accomplished this. One of the most difficult tasks of landscape painting is capturing the form of the land. One could say the life is in the form. | ||
Grizrev Senior Member Username: Grizrev Post Number: 515 Registered: 8-2006 |
Runjhun, it sounds like you have an exciting experimental approach to your paintings and enjoy a lot of serendipities. Of course, not every step or color you try works, or pleases you. What do you do if the color you try is not quite right, or a commonly accepted "rule" you violate causes the painting to crash? How do you go about making corrections? Do you scrub out, overpaint with acrylic, or just start over on another sheet? Do do you try "tweak" a painting to get it headed back in the right direction? I also noticed that you use Paynes Grey. It seems that a lot of painters dislike using greys from a tube and prefer to mix their own. How do you use Paynes Grey? Do you also use tube whites and blacks? If so, how do you normally use them in a painting? I do think you are essentially right about painting from your heart rather than following mechanical steps, rules or procedures! | ||
runjhun Unregistered guest |
i forgot to say thanks thanks all of you | ||
runjhun Unregistered guest |
Please don't appreciate me. I am rather more used to brickbats from here and am very scared of posting anything here. anyways, the process is here: my paintings are usually a lot of washes, splattering and spritzing, scrubbing. I refer a lot to Jeanne Dobie's book "Making Color Sing" (But I don't use RMG as it is not color fast ) and Ray Hendershot's "Texture Techniques for Winning Watercolors" My pallete usually is Yellow Ochre Raw Sienna Raw Umber Warm Sepia Burnt Sienna Burnt Umber Payne's grey Alizarin Crimson Winsor Blue Light Red Indian Red Since i work in the layering process also so i use a lit'l of Acrylic Medium at times in the initial washes. I am not a watercolor purist, I use whatever i get in my hand on the painting. since I am still in the learning mode, i use whatever i can to make my painting look the way I want it to look Sometimes When I can't get a tube of a color or a tube of color finishes in the middle of a painting, i don't think bout it much and just use some other color. No inhibitions. Over the year I have become quite uninhibited in my use of colors and don't think much about color changes a lot. If it pleases me, i just go ahead and do something. Stopped caring about critiques. Once my sister asked me " why did you do this, this way. it looks odd " and i said. "I am an artist and I did it cos i felt like doing it. " I would suggest everyone here to forget about rules regarding WC and paint in the manner their heart tells them to | ||
Marie Senior Member Username: Marie Post Number: 453 Registered: 8-2006 |
You have made extraordinary progress! I especially like the composition, with the strong dark at the top. | ||
Grizrev Senior Member Username: Grizrev Post Number: 511 Registered: 8-2006 |
Terrific texture in the stone ledge, and great shadows, shapes and contrasts. Could you comment a little on your painting process and techniques? | ||
George Unregistered guest |
That’s a remarkable improvement. Congratulations! I’m guessing you used an earth palette. What other pigments (colors) did you use? | ||
runjhun k Unregistered guest |
i just wanted to share this. People on this forum did motivate me to challege myself.  |
