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  Snowman New member Username: Snowman Post Number: 2 Registered: 8-2008 |
I find it a frequent experience to feel inadequate when amongst those whose knowledge I seek........and I believe this is as it should be......I learn first with my eyes and ears and only when I gain mastery of the jargon do I dare use my mouth. Having said that, I feel that it is important for student to speak of that of which he/she knows........even if it's only purpose is provide an easy rapport or rhythm. (I might add that the student's knowledge might not have anything to do with the task at hand.) Coversation, by definition is an "exchange". So my hope is that everyone participates in this give-and-take forum, as I'll be happy to soak in as much wisdom as you're willing to share, whether you're "elite" or not. I desire to be infected by your passion.....smote numb and breathless with the sudden understanding of the essential meaning of it all. Your student, Snowman. (btw...masculine, otherwise it would be Snowmadame?)  | ||
Grizrev Senior Member Username: Grizrev Post Number: 612 Registered: 8-2006 |
Deecubed, I understand completely, and your spirit is certainly kind and thoughtful. Maybe some of those who have been posting frequently have paused to encourage others to take up the "slack." I am delighted to see "Snowman" appear! His or her thoughts are exactly the kind of musings I enjoy. I am at the same age, and have the same kind of thoughts -- as well as your problem with clutter! It is indeed good to hear from a fresh voice. I'd be happy to join the others in being a little more silent if it would encourage others (see "Lurkers and Newbies") to post -- though in this case Snowman posted in the face of a veritable blizzard of posts from me! Let me say again that I have little experience and still less wisdom -- I just enjoy interacting with the interesting folks on this board, and I think my subliminal motivation is to be a model and encouragement for those who, like me, are NOT one of the professional elite, but just someone who enjoys watercolor. My posts should reveal that I do not in any way have "all the answers." I'm just a gadfly tossing out thoughts to provoke others who have more and better knowledge and answers into responding and posting. You, in fact, are one of those! Thanks for your posts today, which help eliminate my name from a long list of threads where I am the last poster! Now the rest of you need to get busy and erase my name as the last poster on these and other threads! | ||
Deecubed Junior Member Username: Deecubed Post Number: 12 Registered: 12-2007 |
The spirit of what I said back in February was not that you, the long-time participants,should stop posting, but that there may be folks who don't post or post less, because you guys seem to have all the answers ... :-) And, yes, I learn from your experience and wisdom. I am also delighted to hear new things from those who participate less. | ||
Grizrev Senior Member Username: Grizrev Post Number: 610 Registered: 8-2006 |
Thinking again about why persons go AWOL from the Forum, Joanna's post seems to suggest that someone may have told her to "post no bills" somewhere along the way. Deecubed suggest that some of us should not post so many bills because it turns the Forum into a private conversation of some kind of "elite." Hey, please, ALL of you join in and help make this a lively place with free flowing thoughts! I can't say more than I've already said in my post 478. | ||
Grizrev Senior Member Username: Grizrev Post Number: 481 Registered: 8-2006 |
Does Bruce McEvoy still read this board? Bruce, do you? Or have you left us for good for the more sophisticated realms and interests of Handprint? | ||
Whitewatercolor Senior Member Username: Whitewatercolor Post Number: 306 Registered: 10-2006 |
When I read this heading "posters" I ignored it because I thought it was discussing how to preserve old posters. Oh well--again, I think many people check in occasionally to see if there are any subjects they can contribute to and if not, they come back later, but they are interested in what everyone's saying. At least I am. | ||
Grizrev Senior Member Username: Grizrev Post Number: 478 Registered: 8-2006 |
Deecubed, I a*sure you I, for one, am not among any elite -- just much too active on the board for an amateur. It's a personality problem. I apologize, and I am genuinely sorry, if my vociferous participation has discouraged you or anyone else from participating. You might notice that others who are active try not to respond too much to my blather, lest it encourage me even more! ;) There is plenty of room for you and anyone else who wants to participate and put out thoughts for what they are worth. I have found the folks who participate to be kind, but they will not hesitate to be honest about ideas that are not worth much! You have already sold more than I have, partly because, like you, I'm not particularly interested in selling, and I put out very little in public unless requested or encouraged to help with an auction, a special showing, etc. I paint for the pleasure of it when I feel like it and have the time, which none of us seems to have enough of! By the way, you are probably right that we could make more room on the board by sending some comments to each other by direct mail -- but then others wouldn't get a chance to join in or know what we've said or been up to. I don't think room or space is a problem for Cheap Joe's. Actually George has sent me some photos of his work by direct email, and I have to say that it is VERY good (whoever George really is!). It's interesting that regular posters on the board were chided for not being active enough over the Christmas holidays. I suppose you can't please everybody. But at any rate, please join in, and please let us see some of your work! | ||
Whitewatercolor Senior Member Username: Whitewatercolor Post Number: 304 Registered: 10-2006 |
Deecubed: Many of us started out very much like you did. You should be totally uninhibited in asking questions or sharing information on this forum. I painted off and on over a period of 30 years before I quit my day job and became a full time artist. Even though I'd sold my work for 10 years before I found this forum, and I only participate sporadically, the chance to interact and share information on materials, artists, tools, etc., has been invaluable and certainly advanced my instruction. I encourage you to not be inhibited, you are not just communicating with the people who are responding, I think there may be lurkers who comment only when something catches their attention. Bonnie | ||
Marie Senior Member Username: Marie Post Number: 451 Registered: 8-2006 |
Dee, we're all learning, and so please don't be intimidated. By the way, I lurked for at least a year before I got up the nerve to post anything. | ||
George Unregistered guest |
The elite? Dee, if you ever feel I get too full of myself you have my permission, and my encouragement, to smack me down. My only concern is that should you stick around for very long you run the risk of becoming one of the elite. :-) | ||
Rekha Senior Member Username: Rekha Post Number: 417 Registered: 8-2006 |
Dee, no question is stupid. I learnt a lot ( I still consider myself a 'newbie') because I asked questions in this forum and people take the time out to respond objectively. Of course, there will be as many opinions as the artist. | ||
Deecubed New member Username: Deecubed Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2007 |
As a newbie to the forum and as a relative newbie to watercolor painting [six years] I am somewhat intimidated by what appears to be the Jack, George, Joanna, Marie, and perhaps a few other's, dialogues. Although I believe I paint modestly well given my limited experience and training thru adult ed classes and various workshops, I often feel when I read your posts, that I dont belong in this league. Even so, I learn a little bit from you, and will watch for additional insights from more experienced painters. However, I find some of the posts sort of "insiders" exchanges that might do better in private exchanges off the forum line. I wonder if other newbies to either this forum or painting are lurking out there like I am, timid about joining the fray or feeling as if they are intruding on conversations of the elite. I have visited websites that some of you have, and can certainly see that you are very accomplished. I have also visited some sites, where I believe I could hold my own were I to exhibit. I have been encouraged by fellow artists in my area to show, and, have experienced a modicum of beginner's luck ... I sold the first painting in one local show in the first five minutes it was open, and then I sold four originals, more than any others, in another show ... all to folks who didn't know me! How exciting! Pride cometh before the fall, and I haven't sold anything since [mostly because I am not aggressive about getting into shows, and haven't invested in reproduction except for my own personal Christmas cards and a few calendars for friends and relatives]], so won't quit my day job! :-) The most important issue is that I paint primarily because I love to, and I love to learn. That is why I joined this forum. I do get questions in my mind that I would like to ask here, and will work on mustering up the courage to participate more. | ||
Joanna Advanced Member Username: Joanna Post Number: 131 Registered: 10-2006 |
Old posters fade away due to the rain washing them away? Or torn down due to the POST NO BILLS notice. Uh...sorry. | ||
Eugene Senior Member Username: Eugene Post Number: 417 Registered: 8-2006 |
Maybe past posters faded because they did't use archival materials.  | ||
Garydoc Advanced Member Username: Garydoc Post Number: 167 Registered: 8-2006 |
Still here...still reading...not painting much Gary | ||
Grizrev Senior Member Username: Grizrev Post Number: 459 Registered: 8-2006 |
In looking back again at the Index to this board that Marie created, I see the names of many accomplished "posters" who no longer post or participate. That's a significant loss. If any of you are reading this, please check back in and let us know that you just "faded" away and didn't really die (we hope!)-- catch us up on your life and art on this thread. You may have dropped out because of some past conflict, disappointment, injury, or who knows what. Actually the board has been a both a pleasant and a helpful community in the last couple of years -- not syrupy sweet, avoiding honest exchanges and candid suggestions necessary if we are to grow as artists, but also not mean-spirited and ugly. Come on back, forgive and be forgiven, and start again. You can contribute to an even better board. |
