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  George Unregistered guest |
For those who don’t know how much runjhun has improved over the past year and a half, here are her first attempts at painting sculpture. In case these two threads get separated in the future, the other thread is: “This is something i have done recently.” Honest criticism can sometimes sting, but if it is taken to heart and used to make improvements, the results can be big. | ||
runjhun Unregistered guest |
Its been such a long time now when i had been so passionate about this topic and these paintings, that now looking back i do feel i had been too sensitive about the issue. I have moved on as I guess everyone else has. I didn't post for a long time as I was not well. I will post my pics If I make anymore, thanks guys regards runjhun | ||
trent Unregistered guest |
Hi Runjhun, I sympathise with you. Some people can sound harsh without actually meaning to be so. I sometimes myself hurt others when i have no intention as such what so ever. Forget the whole stuff, and start painting again and do post somemore of your lovely work. Don't think you are an amateur, your pics do have a lovely feel hope this makes you feel better | ||
midnight_baseball |
runjhun, folks are only trying to help. it's not personal - it's process related. for me - when seeing sculpture depicted in another medium (paint, photography - whatever) one of the things that makes me see it as sculpture is the way the light hits (or doesn't hit it) sharply lit objects can project a more dramatic feeling - or a softer lighting can have another effect. of course, the shape of the sculpture has it's effects too. i'd paint a sculpture of a figure a lot like i'd paint a live figure - but if i wanted to make the figure/sculpture appear as sculpture, i'd probably focus my effort to accentuate maybe the texture of the material it was made of - or maybe a unique coloring of the material (say jade or marble for instance) as for a palette, i'd keep it fairly monochromatic or simple for the object as too much color takes away from the idea of the object being made of a single material. hope this helps. | ||
Rekha |
Eugene, I am with you and would add if you are in the PMT stage just stay away till you feel better. | ||
Eugene |
R. Take a valium and sleep it off. And then post some more of your sensitive paintings. We enjoy them. Do you think it could be the language barrier? Perhaps you don't understand our (US) way of saying things. | ||
A.N. |
Well, I evidently have no inkling about the impact of my phrasing. I am used to dealing with less sensitive people and am not the nurturing sort. On a discussion board such as this, harm can evidently be done. That being said, if in fact I have to walk on eggshells because of "feelings" the essential purpose point of such discussions for me is severally compromised. Please stay. I withdraw my comments with a full apology. Your art is great and your paintings resemble statues admirably. | ||
R |
what i certainly didn't want to hear was this "In my opinion you are trying to run before you can walk. Someone starting out who wants to become a concert pianist doesn't begin with Beethoven's Emperor Concerto." and "uhhhh--" and stuff like this please do not pick on me, i am a human being, it hurts when people are so harsh. I am not a beginner in art, i have been creating since i was about 15 and now i am 29, i am here to understand how to go about doing something which has been challenging me for a lit'l while, and not a detailed analysis of what i am doing is wrong... Is there just one way of doing something? Something that is wrong for one may be right for another. these days its taking more of my time and energy to defend myself on the forum than to actually take up a brush and paint. defending myself from people on this forum has become a big challenge now, i don't know what people want from me, i genuinely was interested in seeing arts of work, and how tos, and help from artist's experiences. i really don't want to continue to explain myself here, too much of a drain on my energy and nerves. forget it people, i don't want any more help. Thanks for all the appreciation all of you. | ||
R |
I am trying to depict a sculpture. and i am a woman A.N. | ||
A.N. |
Hmmm-- Runjun posts some lovely paintings. I tell him I like them. I also say that if I were to randomly encounter one I would not think "sculpture." If one were trying to depict sculpture, that might be useful information. I'm in the dark here. What is it you wanted me to say, exactly, R. Please don't bail out on my account. I could spend my time doing other things than to respond to your postings of paintings. I did so in the spirit of honesty to be helpful. What, exactly, do you want to hear? Anne Noblesse | ||
Eugene |
Runjhun. You are being oversensitive, even for an artist. And will get nowhere in the art world if you cannot take constructive criticsm. Ann ask a simple question. You still have not answered it. | ||
Eric |
Anne, I think you're asking a fair and logical question. As for R's response....? | ||
R |
i am so sad the way the whole issue is turning out, i will not write here any more | ||
Runjhun |
1. how will you paint a sculpture, it can only be carved in stone, 2. what if the statue you are trying to depict is bright yellow, . what if the stone is flaming red, which colors will one use........ 3. In blazing hot sun in 50 degress centrigrade, if you look at a red sandstone sculpture it will take on the heat of the atmoshphere and throw back the flames at you 4. and one would be so dizzy oneself from the scorching heat that one will paint what one sees. " I paint what i saw.. " and i am not here to pick on anyone. period | ||
A.N. |
I think it is pertinent to your work to answer the question I have posed from the outset-- Are you trying to depict sculpture or are you trying to create a painting inspired by sculpture? If you are trying to depict sculptue as sculpture, you might want to use less vibrant colors. Interesting that you are taking all of my comments as negative and as personal attacks since each time I have said how much I like the paintings. I have learned best from honest critics, personally. If you are not painting for others, I understand that. But, are you trying to make your paintings appear to be paintings of sculpture or are they "fantasies" based upon sculpture???????????? ????????????????????????????????????????????? I keep asking and don't seem to be eliciting a response. Oh well, I tried. Keep painting, Anne | ||
Runjhun |
now i have been really really misunderstood, i really don't want 'yes men', now i don't know even why i posted on the site in the first place. i guess i just wanted help and insight from artists. and not a discussion on me, and what i want, And I am NOT trying to sell anything here. I mostly paint for personal pleasure, haven't thought of selling anything to "prospective buyers" on this forum. where did i write that i wanna sell ?????? artists will never be my target audience since they hardly ever buy art, they are so busy creating their own. its never my intention to offend anyone, i like people smiling. so cheerios.. bye for now | ||
Grace |
Runjhun, this is not a site on which you can be sensitive. You ask, you may get answers you will not like. You will always be encouraged to keep working. Just do not expect anyone to want to buy or everyone to like what you have to show. | ||
Raliegh |
I join this forum so I could post my work for critique. It always helps to have someone else point out things that an artist can do to move forward in their painting. Right now I find it's to much of a hassle to post. But the suggestions that have come from this forum have propelled me forward. I notice runjhun that you have asked for suggestions. This probably isn't a good site to think one would get any prospective buyers for their art as everyone on here has Oodles of w/c in their closets! | ||
A.N. |
Runjhun-- Sorry. I reread your post and saw the smiley. I initially misunderstood your tone. I deeply apologize. The truth is I have never attempted sculpture. I can look at Marie's paintings and they read as sculpture. She uses earth colors and carefully models the images. You use brilliant colors and get almost "psychedelic poster" effects. As I said, I don't think "sculpture" when i view your pictures. Just answer this, please: Are you trying to create a painting that says "sculpture" to your viewer or are you trying to create a beautiful painting based upon a sculpture. If it is the latter, you are succeeding. Keep it up, Anne Noblesse | ||
A.N. |
uhhhh--Runjuhn-- Your paintings to me are good but do not say "sculpture." er. nix that. Your paintings are perfect renditions of sculpture. Evidently you want "yes men" rather than honest feedback. | ||
Runjhun |
Ok then A.N. why don't you try doing this as what is your depiction for a sculpture and then show me so i can understand better :) If you want to, i'll send you the larger image file of the sculpture i clicked. better still do you have any of your works displayed online, then maybe i'll have a look and then see from your perspective and gain a better insight. ps: i am still working on the pic | ||
A.N. |
To me is doesn't read as depiction of sculpture. I am not sure that is what you are after anyway, however. | ||
Runjhun |
Thanks grace, after all the hard work done on a pic, its appreciation like this that makes it all worthwile... | ||
Grace |
Love the colors, and the light on the belly. You nailed the button. | ||
Runjhun |
I still am working on this one, and this is not for sale, so please no enquiries on that, however comments and feedback from all are welcome. | ||
Runjhun |
thanks guys all of you now i am doing a piece of it...an up close section and i am thingking bout how the light is falling on the statue. Being consistent about it. and using less line in the sculpture most of the edges soft and selectively placing a few harder edges and details and my practice piece is ....  | ||
midnight_baseball |
i would use less line in the sculpture - like the way you did in the picture you posted to show us your skill level. i would keep most of the edges soft and selectively place a few harder edges and detail in two or three areas you wanted to draw attention towards. you're getting there. practice, practice, practice - and have fun. that's my 3 cents | ||
Runjhun |
Hmmm... a being of light, an image of the Transcendent. I like the way you think | ||
A.N. |
This one I like much better--I think I understand with this one, now--you are not trying to depict the sculpture AS sculpture. I look at this one (Krishna, I assume) and do not see a sculpture, but I do see a being of light, an image of the Transcendent. Nice work. | ||
Runjhun |
A.N. How is this?  this is one sculpture painting i did a few weeks back. Yes the other one is a lot more complicated . but you should see the picture of it posted (fist one in the page from the bottom) !! Isn't it soooooo beautiful that one does want to pick up the brushes and just try, try to recreate what an artist did hundreds of years ago.. And maybe somewhere in the process, the magic of the sculpture will share a little of its glow on us. you can call me a sentimental fool, but i will still try to paint this pic one after another, exploring one media after another.... probably so that I atleast spend those precious moments i steal from a busy day doing something i have loved and no matter what the end results are like. "Still lifes of simple objects" i see them all around me, what i don't see is this kind of beauty, you know if i had the money, i would have commisioned a sculpture to copy this for me in stone....... dreams are dreams..... | ||
A.N. |
Runjhun-- I am not convinced that this is a sculpture. I lacks solidity. It looks like an apparition in the fire. How to fix it? First, start with less complex subjects. Still lifes of simple objects. Do black and white drawings of them (charcoal, pencil) and pay attention to the details of lighting and shading. In my opinion you are trying to run before you can walk. Someone starting out who wants to become a concert pianist doesn't begin with Beethoven's Emperor Concerto. Get the drawings looking like real objects then try to tackle simple objects in watercolour. Go back and look at the post of Marie's lion. That is your goal. It took her years if not decades to be able to achieve this, I would venture. Best wishes. | ||
marie |
I love the color and I love the composition. Grace is right, though. Drawing is critical to pulling off this type of painting. Also, you might want to think about how the light is falling on the statue. I am seeing the light as coming from above and slightly to the right. Be consistent about how you treat the light falling on the subject. Anything that is on a down plane or on the left should be dark. Anything on a top plane or the right should be light. | ||
runjhun |
this is what i have done up till now, and i really hate what i have avhieved up till now, please help me out...  | ||
runjhun |
just to let u guys know my skill level  | ||
Runjhun |
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Runjhun Kejriwal |
thanks grace, dan I really am serious... why don't u guys take a look on this site, http://360.yahoo.com/runjhunk my blog where i have posted the pic of the sculpture | ||
Dan |
Hmm...Gods and perfection. May be unattainable for mortals on this plane...Ha! Can't help ya on this one but say...go slow! [just jokin...good luck!] Dan | ||
Grace |
First, draw draw draw. Use pencil and draw this sculpture until you 'own' it. Keep trying until it becomes yours. Other ideas might be....if this is a complicated thing to paint, perhaps you can do a piece of it...an up close section? A section that people will recognize without doing the entire sculpture? Anything which takes your breath away is worth spending loads of time on. Good luck! | ||
Runjhun Kejriwal |
hi, I am runjhun, these days i have been trying to make a painting of an indian god's sculpture in watercolor but howsoever i try i can't get it right. have u ever tried your hand at it?? its really complicated, but the picture's sheer beauty takes my breath away, now i have been about trying my hand for about 5 days. if you have, any suggestions please help me out. runjhun if only i knew how to post the pic online , i would have done it too. |
